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know, your loved ones, your family, your friends on a personal level that you're attached to on the ground. and life on the space station is also pretty routine. >> it is a year long mission. not scheduled to blast off until 2015. "cnn newsroom" continues with brooke baldwin. >> suzanne, thank you. i'm brooke baldwin. top of the hour here, we're getting some breaking news out of egypt. we're going to take you there live, basically over the last couple of hours we have been watching some of the clashes that have been taking place. take a look at some of the pictures we have now learned there is a group of masked men, let me qualify this, this is state run tv in egypt, that are reporting these masked men setting fire to the muslim brotherhood headquarters. this is in eastern egypt. we're going to take you there live here momentarily with that. i want to begin with this political stalemate on the minds of so many of you here, 27 days
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until the fiscal cliff. and i know you know that already, but guess what, folks? the deadline for congress and the white house to act, to stop the tax increase and punishing spending cuts, that deadline is coming up quicker than you may realize because did you know, congress plans to end its current session on december 21st? check your calendar as we did today. that's two weeks from friday. that means that under congressional rules any agreement, any legislation to fix this whole mess would have to be filed here by december 28th. here's the kicker. the president currently plans to leave town the day before that, on the 17th of this month. so the yearly obama trip to hawaii is set to start a week from next monday. you feel me here? see where i'm going? the window closing faster than folks think. what are our decisionmakers doing right now? among other things they are apparently sending signals through the media. republicans saying time to get
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moving. the president saying there is a deal to be had fairly quickly if the republicans come around to raising taxes on the wealthy. let me give you the president first. >> -- good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis, and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms, and it included additional revenue. and frankly it was the balanced approach that the president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in
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the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. >> so that was speaker boehner obviously flanked by republicans. we'll get you that sound bite from the president because i want to make sure you hear both sides. here is the question i'm hearing people ask. if we go off the cliff here, how big of a hit will we take on taxs? stand by because i'm good to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our view whaeers what you ran through. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of
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$137,000. you see the numbers here first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the cliff, this is this third scenario here, the middle class couple sees their taxes go up by $8,000. laurie, is the viewer -- the couple, this couple here, this middle class couple gets its best deal from the democrats plan, correct? >> that's right. i mean, most people are going to get a better deal from the democratic plan if you're under $250,000 because the two -- the republican and democratic plans are essentially the same on income, but the democrats also want to extend some of the tax cuts that were enacted as part of obama's 2009 stimulus plan.
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that's where you get that bump up for college tuition and extra child credits and that sort of thing. >> so that was middle class scenario, just to show one other scenario. we have another graphic i want to throw up this is pretty much your upper middle class couple, combined yearly income 940,000 bucks. under the democrats' plan, taxes going up $37,000, much less you see the republican plan numbers, about $17,000. and then if we go off the cliff, this couple gets hammered because their taxes go up close to $50,000. their best deal, laurie montgomery, coming from the republicans. >> right. exactly. the republicans don't want to raise their rates where as if we go over the cliff, they lose everything. everyone loses everything if we go over the cliff. and the democrats want those folks to lose their income tax rates anyhow. so they get a better deal from the republicans because the republicans are saying, no, no, we want to extend the tax cuts for you too. >> okay. i want to pick up what you said about everyone losing everything, if we go over the
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cliff there are some folks including your own paper saying maybe not. but i want you to stand by for that. i do want to queue up the president speaking today, the president of the united states. >> the numbers actually aren't that far apart. another way of putting this is we can probably solve this in about a week. it is not that tough. >> so that was the president. let me bring you back in, we have been looking at the dow today, the markets aren't reacting yet. last time i looked, just about half an hour ago, the markets were up about 150 points. some economists say if we go over this cliff or the spiral or the staircase, whatever you want to call it, not too big of a deal. you look at totals for either family, you look at the cliff, the numbers don't lie, do they? >> here is the thing you have to remember. the only tax that people are going to have to pay right away if we go over the cliff is the alternative minimum tax. that's the only part of this whole mess that actually affects your 2012 taxes.
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it is a big problem, and it would hit like 30 million families who don't know it's coming, but most of this increase affects your 2013 taxes. so you wouldn't actually -- you would feel it in withholding, feel it in your paycheck, but they have time to fix this before you file your 2013 taxes to give you back some of that money. >> time to fix this, laurie montgomery, thank you. i want to start there with dana bash here in a moment. because the fiscal cliff debate is starting to sound like, you know, a high stakes game of chicken. there is all kinds of tough talk. no action. right now democrats and republicans are refusing to compromise on this key sticking point, how to get more money from wealthy people. president obama, you know the deal, he wants to raise tax rates for the wealthy. house speaker john boehner wants to close tax loopholes, limit deductions for the wealthy. let's stay on the hill here, let's talk to senior congressional correspondent dana bash. we know the speaker -- we know
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speaker boehner met with conservative republicans today. did he get any backlash today from his plan? >> reporter: you know what, interestingly it doesn't seem like he did. we know that conservatives are not happy with the idea that their own house republican leadership proposed a plan that includes $800 billion in new revenue. we have seen -- reported on it extensively yesterday and the day before about the e-mail alerts that conservative groups have put out, republican senator jim demint was up-front about the fact he's not happy about it. however, when it comes to speaker boehner's own republican conference, as it is called, we're told they met for an hour and there wasn't backlash, that they were united behind him. it seems as though, brooke, that the speaker has, for now, emphasize for now, been able to turn the frustration within his caucus against the president and not -- and keep it away from himself and that's why you're hearing over and over the speaker say that the republicans are trying to be reasonable, the republicans are trying to move the process forward and it is up
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to the president. at least at this point in time, to even respond because it has been two days since the president has gotten their counterproposal and haven't heard from the president. >> we know the congress is done for at least this week. some lawmakers have left town and you asked speaker boehner point blank, is he willing to stick around to work on the fiscal cliff problems? what was his response to you? >> reporter: well, he's staying here. he says he's not going anywhere. he's ready, willing and able to meet with the president, to talk to the president, to negotiate any time the president is going to respond. but the issue is still that, i mean, from where i'm standing, i can look at the house floor and i can see the dark doors closed. they're not here. they're not voting for the next two days and it is only wednesday. so the house of representatives is gone. and what i asked the speaker is whether the optics looks kind of bad since the fiscal cliff is just a couple of -- a couple of
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weeks away and they're not in town. he did not answer. he said he'll be here. other republican sources we talked to say it is what it is. it is the reality and the reality is they don't have anything to put on the floor to vote on right now. and they're in a waiting game for the president. and i think actually at the end of the day, having them go home, having them sort of stream down the capital steps, helps illustrate the republicans' point, which is they're waiting for the president to make his next move. >> time for the white house. so the republicans say. dana bash, thank you very much for us on the hill. as i mentioned at the top of the hour, we're talking about egypt. we are keeping a close eye on this potential powder keg. take a look. look at the masses. this is cairo. two groups of protesters have been clashing. this is just outside of the presidential palace, tossing rocks, lobbing fireworks and molotov cocktails at one another. we have gotten word that masked men set fire to the headquarters
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of the muslim brotherhood. you have protesters furious about president mohamed morsi, his power grab and hastily passed draft constitution that they say leaves them, the people, out of the process. the other group called in by the pro-morsi islamist group, the muslim brotherhood, to show support for the president. it was the muslim brotherhood headquarters that have apparently been set on fire. a family living underground to avoid bombs in syria. cnn takes you inside their chilling reality. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. a little girl in the middle of a nasty custody fight. today, it goes to the nation's highest court. and they're young. they're popular. they're on the short list for 2016. >> we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> so if paul ryan and marco rubio are the future of the gop, how do veteran republicans feel
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syria from cnn's senior international correspondent, arwa damon. she takes us to this dark underground world, beneath aleppo, where she found a family hiding from the bombs overhead. but they're not just hiding. they're living underground as well. here's arwa. >> reporter: down a steep stone stairway into the darkness, this is where the family has been hiding for four months. the strikes were all around us, we just ran out with nothing, the 20-year-old recalls. we just ran and ran down here and the shrapnel was falling all over. since then, they have dared occasionally to go back home, to collect belongings. there would be bombing like that and we would come running back here, she says. their home is just five doors away. but it is right on one of aleppo's front lines.
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it's been hit by artillery fire since they fled. we go home every two weeks to shower, fearful and terrorized, fatma's mother tells us. we have a home. it could crumble at any moment. their makeshift bunker was a workshop, the carved furniture still lines the walls. the last time the family ventured out was three weeks ago. fatma and her younger sister want to leave, anywhere but here, anywhere they can feel the sun and smell fresh air. but their father refuses. poor, but proud, he says he doesn't want to be at the mercy of others. he can send his son to scrape money, and buy a little food. it's humbling how amidst all they have lost and suffered, they insist on offering us tea.
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the girls dream of wounded neighbors. their mother has nightmares her children are dead. and says she feels her heart is going to burst with each explosion. i just tell her it's far away and not to be scared, fatma says. but sometimes the bombings are so close, the family says they choke on the dust. what can we say, we're living in a prison, prisoners in a prison, fatma says. it is more like a grave, he adds. to give you an idea of just how dark it really is, and terrifying with all of the sounds of the gunfire outside, we're going to switch our camera light off. this tiny flame is all the family has. as they listen to the sounds of war above. arwa damon, cnn, aleppo. >> single flame.
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as promised, we wanted to get you back to egypt. we have been reporting on the deadly clashes in cairo. thousands of supporters are pushing these anti-government protesters from the palace grounds and the president's opponents are pushing back. you have two sides, they have been throwing rocks, fireworks, molotov cocktails here and this whole melee against one another. the opposition, you know, firing back as well, trying to gain ground. egypt's health ministry says two protesters have been killed. cnn's reza sayah is live for us in cairo. but i want to begin here with the reports of these masked men setting fire to the muslim brotherhood offices in eastern egypt. what do you know about that? >> well, we just got that word in a few minutes ago as well. this is an office of the muslim brotherhood, their political
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wing, the freedom and justice party attacked by masked men who apparently torched the place. this is another sign that this conflict is escalating, and more tense scenes tonight outside the presidential palace. we have seen a lot of tense nights over the past week and a half, but without question this was the ugliest night. this was the first night where we saw violence between the two sides, the supporters of the president, opponents of the president, they both gathered outside the presidential palace, facing off, right in the middle of the street, first it started with exchanges of insults, and chants. then pockets of clashes, rocks being thrown back and forth, two people killed according to the health minister, dozens injured. and tonight, brooke, we really saw bitterness among the two sides. and it looks like these two sides are digging in, they're defiant, they're determined, and they're not backing down. in the meantime, you have the
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clock ticking towards this referendum, this national vote on this draft constitution. that's what the president wants. that's what his supporters want. the opposition, their supporters, they're determined to derail the president and that's where we stand. what is an incredibly dramatic impasse, a lot of uncertainty in the coming days here in egypt, brooke. >> reza, amidst all of this, where is president morsi right now? >> well, indications are that he is in a safe location and at no point do his aides say he was in any kind of danger. not yesterday, not today, and we're not seeing any evidence of these protesters trying to infiltrate, break the palace doors open. they're staying outside the palace walls, protesting, taking one another on, and we have word that president morsi is not in the palace, we're not sure where he is at this hour. >> okay. we'll keep watching. we'll keep watching with you, reza. appreciate it there in cairo for us.
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bottom of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. want to take you back to the fiscal cliff. not sure if you caught this, but house democratic leader nancy pelosi launched this effort to force a vote, force a vote on extending the middle class tax cut while letting taxes go up first of the year for the wealthiest 2% of americans. keep in mind, republicans own the house majority, so they control which bills, of course, come to vote. and they have not allowed a vote on the tax cuts. so pelosi has begun to circulate this petition and it would force a vote on the measure. they have to get the signatures just to get the vote to happen. if all house democrats sign the petition, she still needs just about two dozen republicans to come on board as well, and that could prove to be a pretty tough task. joining me now from washington, congressman steve israel, democrat of new york. congressman, nice to see you back here on the show. >> thanks, brooke. >> i understand you, yourself, have been reaching out to some of the house republicans on this. have you spoken to any of them? >> i have.
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and you're right, it is tough for a republican to break with his or her party and sign this petition to give a tax cut to 100% of all americans on the first $250,000. what's tougher, i think, is for them to go home and have to explain to people who are making $100,000, $200,000 that they're not going to get a tax break, that their taxes are going to go up $2,000 in order to protect the richest 2%. now, look, i personally believe that that $250,000 figure is too low. if you represent a high cost of living area like mine, i think it should be higher. but i'm not willing to go back to long island and explain to somebody who is making less than $250,000 that they're going to be held hostage for people making more. agree on the 250 and get to the higher number. >> the republican as you point out, the tougher task is to go back to their constituents. how many do you think you may have coming over to your side? got a number? >> we put out a -- i think we'll get virtually every single democrat and we have put out a help wanted hit today. the middle class has a help wanted ad. we need about 30 republicans who
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are willing to sign this petition, just force a vote. vote against it, but force a vote on tax cuts for at least up to the $250,000, and the only skill necessary is courage. >> congressman, we have two weeks. you think you're going to get 30 republicans to do this? >> i think as we get closer to the fiscal cliff i think many republicans will realize it is an indefensible position to go back to their districts and say to 100% of their constituents, your taxes are going to go up because i was protecting 2%. >> okay. let me ask you about your party because one question is why is it so important to you, to the president, to other democrats that rates go up on the 2%, the wealthiest americans, because i know there are a lot of issues at play here, but it seems as though your side will not go anywhere until you get that. is that correct? >> no, look, what's important to me and to my party is that we reduce our debt. what's important is that we reduce our debt, but not on the backs of middle class and
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seniors. what's important is that we have debt reduction that is big, bold and balanced. to do that, you have to cut spending. we have already voted for $2 trillion in cuts. >> you won't budge on that 2%. i just want to make crystal clear that's the deal. >> we can negotiate. i'm all for talking and reasonable compromise, but it doesn't look like we're going to be able to get an agreement before christmas. and this is why people get frustrated with washington. instead of beating each other up where we're not going to agree -- >> you don't think an agreement will be reached bit end of the year? >> not on the whole package. instead of beating each other up on areas where it will be tough to get agreement, let's pass areas where we agree. everybody agrees at least on a tax cut on the first $250,000, let's pass it, let's give america's middle class certainty in terms of how much they can spend on their holiday gifts. let's come back as soon as we can and negotiate the tougher issues. that's just common sense and reasonableness. >> let's talk about numbers.
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let's throw the common sense and courage out the window for now, talk hard numbers. if we can throw up the dow now, it has been up, here it is, about 100 points. and there is an article, congressman, in the washington post, saying traders think -- they do think, perhaps you don't, in terms of a huge deal, but a deal will be reached before the end of the year and there is not this feeling on wall street that -- i'm quoting this article, that a short-term voyage off the cliff would do no lasting harm to the economy. what are you hearing from wall street? sounds like some folks aren't so nervous. >> there is a variety of opinions, diversity of opinions. i said show me two economists and i'll show you six different opinions. the opinions are out of my control. what is in my control is this. can we get certainty? and, again, we all agree on at least the first $250,000, me, myself, i think it ought to be higher because it should be linked to the cost of living and not some figure. i think it should be higher. but let's just get agreement and pass the bill where we know
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everybody does agree. and that's on at least the first $250,000. that gives the market certainty and just as important it gives the middle class certainty. right now, this weekend, people are going to go out and buy holiday presents for their family, their friends, loved ones, they need to know whether their taxes are going to go up by $2,000 because we can't get an agreement. let's at least get that done and then we can move on to the more contentious issues. >> okay. congressman steve israel, appreciate it. thank you very much. joining me from the hill. after weeks of hiding out in belize, an american millionaire now on the run is now seeking asylum in guatemala. coming up next, why john mcaf mcafee's scheduled press conference was suddenly canceled today. a makeover for the republican party? just ahead, paul ryan and marco rubio lay out their vision to strengthen the gop. ate cd. ate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me
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internet security pioneer john mcafee is asking for asylum in guatemala. mcafee is wanted for questioning about the murder of his neighbor in belize, who was found shot in his head. mcafee was on the run and in hiding until he just surfaced in guatemala. he promised to hold a news conference today but the appointed hour came and went. no mcafee. martin savidge has been covering the story in belize. you just got back. you've met him. you've interviewed him. what happened to the news conference today? where is he? >> you know, we don't know. this is typical john mcafee style in that something gets said and for whatever reason, yet to be revealed, he didn't have the news conference. i looked on his website, he has multiple, he said news conference tomorrow 2:00 to 4:00. that's not a guarantee. something has happened and john mcafee will reveal all. >> is he still in guatemala? >> you can't say that for certain. i would think probably so. though when i met with him, he
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did indicate they were going to run. that was pretty clear. and he also said the journey would take about three days, which it did. went probably on saturday, resurfaces monday. and then he said he would probably, wherever he went, stay only a few days and then disappear again. >> this is the kind of guy even for you to come find him, he sent you on some bizarre circuitous route to find him. >> like out of an old spy movie where the taxi rolls up and a man says, the password, which in this case was sorry i'm late. and i'm supposed to respond, that's okay, i'm waiting on a co-worker, though i nearly blew it because i was so caught off guard that i stammered out the wrong response. but i went in the cab and then he races through town, then drops me in a parking lot, jump in another vehicle, we roar off again. it was clearly designed to keep me out of the loop of where we were. >> you talked to him. cnn espaniol talked to him as
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well. let's listen. >> no one has blamed me for the murder. i have not been charged. i am not a suspect. they merely want to question me about the murder. i am not concerned. i have not been charged with a crime. there is no basis for extradition. >> explain that. >> it also seems there is no basis for asylum. that's what he's seeking. if the authorities don't want him. and they haven't formally charged him. no warrant for his arrest. no formal charge against him. in theory, he can go wherever he wants, but he makes it out like he's the number one criminal in all of belize. he is not. authorities said we would like him to come in and answer some questions. we're not out actively trying to pull this man in. john mcafee sees something else going and that is that somehow the government of belize is targeting him for death. >> we'll see if he appears tomorrow. martin savidge, thank you very much. appreciate it. rebranding the republican
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two of the future stars of the republican party appeared together. last night. florida senator marco rubio received the second jack kemp leadership award. the first recipient was paul ryan. here they were. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you
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at the reunion dinner, table for two, know in good tables? >> thank you for your invitation for lunch from iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> gloria borger, chief political analyst, little, i suppose, that is presidential primary humor there for these two? >> already. >> for these two potential republican candidates. these two men, they're in the midst of this discussion as to where the republican party needs to go next. how do their speeches last night fit into that discussion? >> well, first of all, they were at an event honoring jack kemp, who, of course, ran for the vice presidency and lost like paul ryan, and paul ryan's a disciple of jack kemp's. jack kemp was the original sort of inclusive republican. he really wanted to make sure the tent of the republican party included minorities, included
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people who were in the middle class, and below the middle class, and he spoke about that almost nonstop. so it was kind of interesting to me that both of these candidates last night really seem to be taking that and running with it because, of course, they looked at the exit polls just as we did, they're part of a republican party that is now on the couch, trying to figure out what went wrong and who they need to include the next time around if they're going to grow as a party. and win the presidency. and what we heard from these two men is be more inclusive, don't divide the country into us and them, talk about the middle class, and talk about minorities, particularly from marco rubio, who, of course, wants the party to appeal to hispanics. and you can argue that hispanics were a large part of the reason the reasons lost this presidency. >> i was just curious too, i was watching -- reading about it, this whole inclusiveness theme, is that a jab of the romney 47%
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comments as well? >> he was saying you just can't divide the country and romney said 47% of them believe they're entitled and then there is, you know, the rest of us and we're never going to get them, i think what ryan was saying was, of course we can get them. we just have to talk to them. and that, of course, brooke, you've been talking about this today, this plays into the whole fiscal cliff debate up on capitol hill, which is republicans trying to decide whether they're going to go over that cliff in order to preserve a tax cut for the wealthiest 2% of americans. this is a big -- >> a big moment. a big moment for the republican party. let me just put it -- i want to hear a little bit more of the sound and we'll keep the conversation going. take a listen. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap.
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we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people just want what my parents had, a chance. >> back to what you were talking about with the fiscal cliff. do you think depending on what the republicans do here in these final, what, two weeks, might that be sort of a harbinger of things to come, a harbinger of the next republican party? >> yeah. i think it will. i think what you're seeing is a party really having an identity crisis, trying to figure out what it is and who it should stand for and as you see more and more republicans sort of saying, you know what, we don't need to go over the cliff on this particular tax issue out of economic theory, we need to take a stand and appeal to the people who can actually get us elected president in the next
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presidential campaign and that would be the middle class. and also appeal, trying to appeal in the long-term to those minority voters. the fascinating statistic to me out of this entire election, brooke, was that in 2008, 74% of the electorate was white. this time that went down two points and those two points, one could argue, handed the president re-election and the republican party needs to figure out a way to broaden, not to narrow itself, and that's what these two men are talking about, and that's what the debate on capitol hill is about. >> gloria borger, thank you very much. >> sure. america's leading dictionary publisher has announced its list of the top ten words of the year. so this list is actually based on the volume of how many people are searching for words at number four here, the number four search word, marriage. number three, bigot.
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this is fun to watch. the words you're guessing on twitter here with me, before the break, we showed you numbers three and four on merriam-webster's list of the most searched words of 2012. here are the top two positions, number two, touche, webster believes this word may have gained popularity this year through verbal jousting on social media. i tweeted the word touche first time today. craig schultz, i'm talking to you. and the most searched word in 2012 is actually, two words, socialism and capitalism. meriam webster says they share the top spot. there you have it, the top four, really top five. interesting question for you, what are you?
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>> recently i had one of those experiences, just like writing things and i was like, becca deals with the same thing. let's make this a group piece. >> what do you want to do? >> i don't know. pick a book and pick a poem. >> reporter: becca is her best friend. they do spoken word poetry together. >> it starts off with girl, you are so pretty. what are you? the quintessential question for a girl with soft curls. they can't handle my racially ambiguous figure. they itch to know just what i am. it helps them sleep at night if they can pin down the reason for my -- skin. >> reporter: they are being asked to categorize themselves racially. can you decide if you're black or white? >> i don't think anybody else gets to pick for me. when it comes down to it, it is
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some sad news to share with you today from the music world. jazz legend dave brubeck has
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died. ♪ >> as a pianist, brubeck is credited with bringing jazz to the mainstream, but also breaking racial barriers. in fact, during the height of his career, he canceled dozens of concerts in the south when they wouldn't allow his black bass player in certain venues. we had bill cosby on earlier today. listen to what he had to say about brubeck. >> as i have said, racism is a waste of time. and people who tried to push it and keep it out front because of whatever their idiocy happens to be, there are people like dave and others, benny goodman, et cetera, et cetera, louis
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armstrong, they all knew that in playing these places, that they were given an opportunity to say, no, it's not going to be that way. >> he worked with parker and duke ellington. his manager tells us brubeck died of heart failure one day before his 92nd birthday. top of the hour here, i'm brooke baldwin. an urgent situation unfolding right now in egypt. we're getting word here that masked men have attacked the office headquarters of the muslim brotherhood as the protests grow increasingly violent. at the center of all of this, the egyptian president, mohamed morsi. we'll take you live to cairo in a matter of minutes. first, the fiscal cliff. the fiscal cliff sound bites,
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they are flying even if the actual negotiations are at a stand still. president obama says republicans, they're the ones that need to take the next step here. republicans say no way, ball's in your court, mr. president. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it is not that tough. >> now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. now, the revenues we're put on the table are going to come from, guess who, the rich. >> if we can get the leadership on the republican side to take that framework, take knowledge of that reality, then the numbers actually aren't that far apart. >> where are the specifics, where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> passing middle income tax cut means the end of holding them hostage from tax cuts for the middle -- for the rich. >> i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give
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your answer of where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this s this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> debt ceiling, let's go to the white house, to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. hang on, jessica, why are we talking debt ceiling limit again? please tell me not so. >> reporter: sounds confusing, brooke. the white house thinks of the debt ceiling as part three of a three-step solution to the fiscal cliff. they are asking that any deal that they cut with the republicans include some mechanism that is a permanent solution to avoid a debt ceiling nightmare, like we had last year. here's what president obama said when he spoke to business ceos about this earlier today.
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>> i want to send a very clear message to people here, we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history, until we did it last year, i will not play that game. because we have got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: so just to be very clear, the white house sees this as three steps. a fiscal deal would include, one, some measure that would raise revenue. tax raising. two, a sequester, that's all those budget cuts that are going to kick in, some way to save money through spending cuts, probably on medicare changes. and then, three, some solution for the debt ceiling, both in
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the short-term and then some permanent solution to avoid that kind of nightmare repeating itself over and over, brooke. >> so we just played a bunch of the sound bites here today from the president, from capitol hill. we know the white house gave their plan last week. republicans responded with their plan on monday, it has been two days. any indication there will be any movement, any response from the white house? >> reporter: they are waiting, essentially, for the republicans to change their position on tax rates. that's the bottom line. i'm saying it more clearly than they will, but that is the bottom line, brooke. >> we appreciate that. jessica yellin for us at the white house. jessica, thank you very much. i want to get past all this politics here, to just really how this affects you. we'll start with one of the most popular parts of the tax code that helps so many home owners. christine romans has that. >> reporter: the middle class's most cherished tax break could be in the cross hairs of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the mortgage interest deduction. government spending on this will
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reach $100 million by 2014, making it the third largest tax break on the books. who does it help? 41 million people. the most recent irs data showed that 41 million people claimed this deduction on their 2010 tax returns. the tax policy center says it tends to benefit upper middle class families the most. these bars show income in the circles the average savings. for those with incomes of less than $40,000 a year, their savings is $91, look at the people who make $250,000 and more. their average savings is about $5500. this benefits people most on both coasts and cities like chicago, with higher property prices, and we watch the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie
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montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our viewers what you ran through with, of course, the help from the tax policy center. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of $137,000. you see the numbers here, first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the cliff, this is this third scenario here, the middle class couple sees their taxes go up by $8,000. laurie, is the viewer -- the
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couple, this couple here, this middle class couple gets its best deal from the democrats' plan, correct? >> that's right. most people are going to get a better deal from the democratic plan if you're under $250,000 because the two republican and democrat -- the republican and democratic plans are essentially the same on income, but the democrats also want to extend some of the tax cuts that were enacted as part of obama's 2009 stimulus plan. that's where you get that bump up for college tuition and extra child credits and that sort of thing. >> we have another graphic i want to throw up. this is pretty much your upper middle class couple, combined yearly income, 940,000 bucks. under the democrats' plan, you see the numbers, taxes going up about $37,000. much less when you see the republican plan numbers, about $17,000. and then if we go off the cliff, this couple gets hammered because their taxes go up close to $50,000. their best deal, laurie
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montgomery, coming from the republicans. >> right. exactly. because the republicans don't want to raise their rates where as if we go over the cliff, they lose everything. everyone loses everything if we go over the cliff. and the democrats want those folks to lose their income tax rates anyhow so they get a better deal from the republicans because the republicans are saying, no, no, we want to extend the tax cuts for you too. >> laurie montgomery from the washington post, thank you. up next, chaos in cairo. protesters charging the presidential palace, throwing molotov cocktails into the crowd. you'll see how the guards there reacted. plus, a little girl in the middle of this nasty custody fight, but today goes to the nation's highest court. hear what happened inside coming up. [ tylenol bottle ] nyquil what are you doing? [ nyquil bottle ] just reading your label. relieve nasal congestion?
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a tense face-off in cairo today. two protesters were killed and four injured as the two sides threw rocks and fireworks and molotov cocktails outside the presidential palace. you see the sheer volume of the crowds. opponents are livid over morsi's power grab and the rush to draft a new constitution. on the flip side, morsi supporters called into action by
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the muslim brotherhood whose headquarters was attacked today by masked men. reza sayah is live for us in cairo. i want to start with this masked men attacking, in fact, now looking at the video, i see the fire. tell me what you know. >> reporter: yeah, that's the city north of cairo. the political wing of the muslim brotherhood, the freedom and justice party, they claim that masked men stormed their offices and destroyed it, torched it, that happened to another one of their offices in another city outside of cairo, just a sign of this conflict escalating. earlier tonight, outside of the presidential palace, an intense stretch that turned into some ugly violence, that's where you had supporters of president morsi, opponents of president morsi, gathered in front of the palace. initially during the day, there were pockets of clashes. what you had around 7:00, 8:00 p.m. was this remarkable
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staredown. the main road that goes through the palace is divided by old railroad tracks. on one side of the track, you had supporters of president morsi. on the other side of the tracks, you had opponents, exchanging insults and chants. you knew the tension was escalating and you knew that all someone had to do was throw a piece of debris, a rock or something and that's exactly what happened. somebody threw a piece of rock, it seemed like where we were, and then things really escalated. lots of commotion, chaos, debris, rocks, molotov cocktails flying around. police were there. but they were simply outnumbered. they couldn't do much. what you had were clashes on the side streets going back and forth, according to state media, more than 200 people were injured. the health ministers telling us two people were killed. but state media within the past few minutes saying that that's not the case. no one has died. so we're getting some conflicting reports. we're going to check that out
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and see exactly how many people died, brooke. >> reza, the president, president morsi, he can't be in the palace right now, correct? >> reporter: no, he's not. and these protests over the past 24 hours, they have taken place after 5:00 p.m. and that's a time where he leaves his office in the presidential palace. there is no indications that he was in any kind of danger, no indications that any of these protesters tried to breach the walls and get into the palace. most of these demonstrations, most clashes taking place outside the palace in the side streets. things have calmed down there right now. but certainly some intense and dramatic moments earlier tonight, brooke. >> reza sayah in cairo, thank you. an update to the story we have been following, this mother sneaks her sick 11-year-old daughter out of the hospital, with a recently amputated arm, still has a heart catheter in her, leaves. the little girl's father explains why they did this next.
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the father of that 11-year-old cancer patient removed from a phoenix hospital says she's better off in mexico. the young girl was last seen walking out of a hospital with her mother there. there they go, on hospital
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surveillance tape. so a frantic search was launched because of fears the girl's heart catheter could become infected. speaking on mexican tv, her father says they took her back to mexico because she was given, quote, bad medical treatment. hospital officials say the girl needs treatment and police say the parents could face negligence charges. getting through security around the british royal family, it's like trying to penetrate ft. knox. exactly how did the two deejays get through with a prank call? full of hospital staff where the duchess of cambridge is being treated and actually speak with her private nurse? we have the prank call, that's next. later this hour, the life, the legend, the sounds of jazz great dave brubeck. ♪ ♪
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battle. but you see, this isn't your usual custody case. this one involves an international treaty and it is being argued in front of the u.s. supreme court. there is a lot to this. let me let our justice correspondent joe johns explain. take a listen. >> reporter: aris chapin is a beautiful 5-year-old in the middle of a bitter custody battle between two parents at the end of a rocky marriage. >> my daughter, she's my -- she's my sparkle. she's everything. she's everything for me. >> if my daughter returns to the united states, i believe i will never see her again. >> reporter: it is a complicated legal fight dealing with international borders and treaties and important enough that the u.s. supreme court has taken the case. the last time aris was in the u.s. her father shot this video of her, but now she lives in scotland, where her mother lynn is from. a federal judge ruled that lynn could legally take aris back to scotland, despite her father's
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objections. he says aris shouldn't be with her mother, because lynn has a drinking problem. >> i don't think that somebody with an issue, an alcohol issue like that, can take care of a child. definitely on their own. >> reporter: as evidence, jeff points to this 2010 police video where lynn was charged with disorderly conduct. but lynn says it was an isolated incident after a night out. >> i had too much to drink and i apologized to the court when i was taken to court. that's not a reflection on me as a mother. i wasn't drunk and in charge of my child. >> reporter: it is a classic he said/she said. >> i believe he set me up. >> reporter: lynn accuses jeff of unwanted controlling behavior including a plot to get her deported. >> he told the police on me, on the 24th of december, christmas eve, and i was removed from the house. i was taken to jail. >> reporter: something jeff denies. >> how could i get her deported? how is that even possible? >> reporter: telling a totally different story.
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>> i woke up with her standing over me with a knife. >> reporter: so why would the supreme court get involved? there is a treaty called the hague convention that says a child in the middle of an international custody battle goes to the country of her habitual residence. here is lynn's lawyer. >> the whole treaty turns on these two words, habitual residence. what is the ordinary, regular home of this little girl? >> reporter: and what is it? >> scotland. >> reporter: the federal court agreed that's where aris belonged. but jeff's lawyer argues the judge got it wrong. the question is whether lynn intended to stay in the us with us her family. >> the phrase miscarriage of justice comes to mind. >> reporter: the main issue for the supreme court is if jeff can appeal the decision now that aris is out of the country. >> you got to have that next level of review. >> reporter: and it could have broader implications. >> this is a case that has immediate significant long lasting impact for every parent in america. >> reporter: though most likely for military families and families who travel overseas. ultimately lynn's lawyer says it
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all comes down to this. >> the welfare of the child. it is not good for a child to be like a ping-pong ball, going backwards and forwards between different countries. >> wow. joe johns, what a mess. how was the case argued before the supreme court this morning? >> well, you know, question is which direction are they going to go? the court never really tells you but you try to find things from their questions. the main issue is whether the treaty we were talking about cuts off all appeals that a child can be whisked out of the country immediately after one parent gets a judgment by a court, which is exactly what happened in aris' case. she was on a plane like two hours after a judge's ruling in alabama. so, today, it looked as though most of the justices who expressed at least some level of skepticism about cutting off all appeals had the potential to sort of mold and shape this,
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even chief justice john roberts suggested, brooke, it might be better to hold things up temporarily in a case like this, if there is going to be a rush to judgment by the party that wants to take the child out of the country. >> hold things up temporarily, then what happens next? for the child? >> well, i mean, i think what they were talking about or at least some were talking about is, like, a stand-down period, or something like 48 hours between when a court makes a ruling and the child has to leave, so there is sufficient time to try to get an appeal. not necessarily to just throw out the treaty, but just let's have a little bit of down time to think about this. that's the kind of thing they're talking about today. but that's just sort of problem solving. it doesn't address all the legal issues, that's another thing entirely for the court. >> thanks, joe. have you heard about this? a prank phone call actually got
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through to the hospital where the duchess of cambridge is being treated for severe morning sickness. here's what we know. two australian radio hosts called up. they're pretending to be both the queen and prince charles and they get transferred to the nurse who is treating catherine. >> hello, good morning. >> hello there. could i please speak to kate, please, my granddaughter in. >> yes, just hold on, ma'am. >> thank you. >> are they putting us through? >> our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen here. i know it is crazy when you hear the audio, the accent is horrible, and not only do they get through to the nurse, the nurse gave up confidential information, right? >> she said that she -- that catherine was dehydrated when she came in, and they were giving fluids to rehydrate her and then the nurse mentioned since she had been on duty, that catherine hasn't been wretching, that's the word she used, wretching. and all of this to the deejays pretending to be royal family. it is amazing. >> in england in and of itself,
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can anyone call up the hospital room and get through to someone like this? >> we asked one of our london-based correspondents this question and he said, no, absolutely not. this is not supposed to happen. this verges on illegal. it was a disaster. so apparently this was not supposed to happen, but it did happen. so it tells you something that maybe the rules weren't being followed. >> here she is, 12 weeks along just about, for the next six months, this is the baby bump the world will be watching. how much information do you think the palace will give the world? >> from talking to our folks in london, not much. they revealed she was in the hospital because they had to. people follow, all there watching. had they walk into the hospital and her husband is going in and out, they had to say that. i don't think we'll hear about the first kick, we won't hear about the results of her diabetes test. >> keep that private for her sake. >> exactly. i think they'll say things when they have to say things, like what happened here. >> okay, elizabeth cohen, thank you. now you're about to hear how a serial killer is describing
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how to lure a victim, the killer's name is israel keyes. keyes killed himself in an alaskan jail after being arrested in the murder of an 18-year-old female barista, whose abduction was caught on this surveillance video. here it is. before he died, the fbi says keyes confessed to killing at least seven other people. that confession has led to a coast to coast search for clues and for help from the public to find keyes' victims. george howell is working on this for us today. and so we know that the fbi says keyes didn't know any of his alleged victims, so how did he lure them? >> this was all random, but he had a very methodical plan, brooke, of how he went about this. first of all, we know he had these murder kits stored, stashed around the country. kits that had -- >> murder kits. >> murder kits with weapons, with cash that he got from robberies, all of this just, you know, to use had he got to the city, with his plan to attack people. and we also know he would fly
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into cities, we know he would drive hundreds of miles to find unsuspecting victims, just to randomly kill people. >> so you talk about these murder kits, these were clues then presumably he left behind. you mentioned across country. >> yeah. and investigators were able to find them at the blake falls reservoir in new york, and eagle river in alaska. want to walk you through sort of the timeline of events. we know, first of all, he was caught for this most recent murder, his last murder, you had the video a minute ago. >> surveillance tape of. >> of samantha koenig, his final victim. what we know, she was a barista in alaska. we know he was in anchorage, alaska, he abducted her, he killed her, stored her body in a shed, and then, brooke, he went to new orleans, he took a two-week cruise. then he went back to alaska, he took a picture of koenig, she's dead, of course, but he took a picture, pretending she was alive, used that picture, sent it to the family to try to extort money from them. so investigators, they kept
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track of that, they tracked him down in texas, that's where he was using her debit card. >> we have some sound, george. let me -- let's roll the sound and talk on the other side. >> absolutely. >> i thought it was smart, i would do it -- i would let them come to me. just remote area. remote area that is not anywhere near where you live, that other people go to as well, you might not get exactly when you're -- not much to choose from in a manner of speaking, but there is also no witnesses really. nobody else around. >> what is he talking about? >> there he is, explaining it very calmly. >> back in july. >> thoroughly. yeah, he takes people out to places where there aren't a lot
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of witnesses and that's where he kills them. so through the course of many conversations, like that, brooke, investigators were able to determine he was connected to another murder in vermont, bill and lorraine currier. this was a similar case where he flew into vermont, went to their neighborhood, and specifically went looking for homes that would be easy to break into. he decided to choose theirs. >> and he will never face a trial because as we mentioned, he killed himself, just this past weekend. >> that's the thing. so investigators got a lot of information from him. they believe that he's connected to at least eight murders. we're talking four in washington, one new york, vermont and alaska. and they want any help they can get to make sure that, you know, they have information about other cases. >> okay. george howell, thank you so much. forget the politics here, forget the bickering since it looks more and more like we could be heading over the so-called fiscal cliff. what happens to you? what happens to your paycheck? ali velshi up next to explain. ♪
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from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi with your money. the sheriff of washington was run out of time, she could come back and could have more power than ever. first, let's look at the money menu. 27 days left and washington continues to push america's economy toward a fiscal cliff. republicans offered president obama a proposal that retained the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and now they say the ball is in the president's court. >> this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> both sides promise to cut trillions from government spending over the next decade, but the republicans insist they can do it without raising taxes on the rich. president obama insists that's a nonstarter. he shared his message with rich folks at the business round
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table. he told them they could handle paying more in taxes. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that will affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. >> business round table is a lobby group made up of some of the country's biggest ceos, ceos of some of the country's bigg gt companies. if you don't know what the fiscal cliff is, you've probably been living under a rock. i found this explanation. this is mr. burns from the simpsons. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver all the money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it is just -- >> what actually will happen if america does head toward that fiscal cliff? and go over it even temporarily?
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cnn money's jean zahadi has been on this story from the very beginning. here is the question at hand. a lot of people are saying, what happens if we don't get a deal right by the end of december and we get into early january, maybe go over the cliff for a week or two? is that catastrophic? >> it doesn't have to be. there are steps the government can take to mitigate the impact of the spending cuts and the tax increases. but legislative and budget experts i talked to say that really assumes a lot of things. one, that congress will act quickly, which can it do if it wants to, but, you know, can they cut a deal in january that they couldn't cut in december? that's one question. january tends to be a slow legislative month, a lot of new members are getting acclimated. and frankly, you know, people's expectations of how much revenue is raised and how much spending there will be will change completely because the fiscal cliff will be in effect and it is going to result in more than $500 billion in tax increases and spending cuts. so it could be hard to get the parties together in deciding how to change that in january.
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>> jean is following this very closely on go there to get a good understanding of what this fiscal cliff is all about. thanks, jean. word is that elizabeth warren, the brand-new senator-elect from massachusetts is angling to be appointed to the senate banking committee. i hope that happens. the consumer crusader is just what the committee needs. she was president obama's pick to run the newly created consumer finance protection bureau, which she designed, but republican senators on capitol hill refused to even consider confirming her. instead, they did their best to drive her out of town. >> so it has gone beyond your advice to treasury, you're also providing advice to other governmental agencies? >> congressman -- >> i understand, you can use the word congressman a number of times, miss warren, i'm simply asking a very simple question. >> is there a duty to educate yourself, yes or no? >> i believe that an empowered consumer is a consumer who cannot only protect himself or
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herself, but one who can change the market. >> mr. chairman, i give up. >> well, warren left washington, but not for long. after president obama took her out of the running for the job, she went back to massachusetts, ran for senate, and won. so she's back in washington. and ready to add to her legend as the sheriff there to protect your money. and this time republican senators can't do a thing about it. warren is a fierce advocates for consumers and believes the amount of risks banks take should be regulated. on friday, we'll get our first post election look at how many jobs are being created. and the early forecasts are not good. cnn money forecasts just 77,000 net jobs created in november. that's far fewer than the 171,000 that were added in october. a lot happened last month. superstorm sandy, labor turmoil at hostess and business uncertainty because our elected officials won't get their act together and deal with the fiscal cliff. brace yourself for a job number that could be even lower than
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chances are you're probably running his anti-virus program on your computer right now. mcafee. but lately john mcafee's better known as a man on the run. police in belize would like to talk to him, his neighbor in the caribbean country was found dead on november 11th. mcafee is now emerging publicly in guatemala where he's seeking asylum. let's talk to joey jackson, our legal analyst on the case. and so the deal is, he was supposed to show up for a news conference today, no dice, no
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show. >> no dice. >> been on the run for the better part of a month. talking to a reporter who did get an interview with him, gave him the circuitous route, had to give a password. what do you make from his behavior? >> it is problematic. we call this consciousness of guilt. if a person has done nothing wrong, they don't run. where that's a problem and we know he hasn't been charged, that's true, but in the event that it escalates and he is charged, how do you think this evidence is go to be used against him? it is going to show, listen, if there is a person who has done nothing wrong they certainly wouldn't be fleeing, they wouldn't be running, they wouldn't go out of the country, wouldn't be applying for asylum, wouldn't be engaged in any of those behaviors. so legally it can play out very poorly for him later on. >> consciousness of guilt. >> exactly. >> cnn espanol talked to him in guatemala, exclusively. roll it.
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>> no one has blamed me for the murder. i have not been charged. i am not a suspect. they merely want to question me about the murder. i am not concerned. i have not been charged with a crime. there is no basis for extradition. >> joey jackson if you're his attorney, what advice do you give john mcafee? >> all of that, what he said, is true, but there are two things i would focus on. one is his mouth, the other is his conduct. here's why. number one, i would suggest he just stop talking. you can never do yourself any favors when you talk because anything you say can and will be used against you. >> surprising how much he is talking. >> absolutely. it is overboard. he has to stop. the second thing is with respect to his conduct, listen, you hire an attorney, you have that attorney deal with the press, you have them deal with the public, you have them deal with everyone and you just go on and live your life and stop acting in such a bizarre fashion. it can come back to bite you. >> they say they're going to hold a news conference together, together tomorrow, we shall see
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if they follow through on that. >> will he show up? >> joey jackson, thank you very much, on the case. see you back here tomorrow. ashley judd, is she the new al franken? the hollywood star may be considering a run for the senate and she wouldn't be just challenging really any senator here, just the most powerful republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell. melons!!! oh yeah!! well that was uncalled for. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy, ronny? happier than gallagher at a farmers' market. get happy. get geico. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save.
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movie star ashley judd's next role might be political candidate. in real life, not on the screen. judd may try to unseat one of the nation's most powerful republicans, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. her liberal politics might face an uphill battle in the red state of kentucky. keep in mind, she has deep, deep roots there as an article in politico today points out. she's an eighth generation kentuckian. she doesn't live there full time. she lives between nashville and scotland, native country of her race driving husband. huge kentucky wild cat fan. she is spotted a lot of times
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watching the wild cat games. politico broet tke the story ear this week. i want to bring in their reporter manu raju. good to see you. i read your piece and my first thought is, okay, how serious is she of challenging, of all people, mitch mcconnell? >> it is not going to be an easy bid. look out feelers, she spoke with kristen gillibrand about the possibility of run ining. she's spoken to pollsters, fund-raisers to see if there is an opening for her to run. she looks like she's seriously exploring the possibility of running against mitch mcconnell in 2014 or rand paul in 2016. those are things she's seriously exploring. whether or not she gets into the
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race is a completely different question. as of right now she looks to be putting out feelers and considering a run. >> she's exploring. she's a recent harvard masters grad. what would she be able to bring politically. >> she certainly would have significant name recognition, more than any other potential democratic candidate. she would be able to raise a lot of money from not just democratic groups who are very excited by her liberal views and her politics, but also big donors, a lot of her allies in hollywood. but she does not have any elected experience. she has not run for political office before. much like someone against senate minority who is a shrewd campaigner who's very, very experienced. who's building a presidential level campaign operation. this would be a very, very tough
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bid. especially for a first time candidate like her. >> when i was reading your piece, i started thinking of other celebrities who turned to the politician path. you think of ronald reagan and jesse ventura, arnold schwarzenegger. al franken, fred thompson, sonny bono. what's missing in that list is a woman. what are some of the challenges she'd be facing here if she were to try to blaze the trail? >> well, i think the biggest challenge is the fact that kentucky is a state that voted overwhelmingly for mitt romney, 116 out of 120 counties in kentucky supported romney. and she was a very, very big obama supporter. she's got a lot of liberal point of views that would certainly energize the democratic base. she's very adamantly opposed to the practice of mountain top removal mining. that is a practice in which the coal industry strongly
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supports -- and the coal industry is prefrn lent in kentucky. those are the types of challenges she would face. she would have to finesse both her positions. mainly out of step with some of the conservative voters in the state and come across as someone who would be -- should be taken seriously as a senate candidate. there is time for all that to happen. and a lot of her supporters say that she can certainly do just that given the right circumstances. >> we're talking potentially 2014 maybe later, she would be someone to watch for. thank you so much. senior congressional correspondent for politico. appreciate it. >> thank you. remembering dave brubeck. not only was he one of the greatest jazz musicians, he was a fighter for civil rights and justice. don't miss this.
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now, a tribute to a jazz legend.
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dave brubeck has died. he passed away from heart failure just one day before his 92nd birthday. he was legendary for breaking racial barriers, bringing jazz into the mainstream with his innovative style and rhythm. nichelle turner gives us a look at the life and legend of david brubeck. >> late in his long life, dave brubeck was able to play with the dexterity of a much younger man. his hands first touched the piano as a boy in northern california, tutored by his mother, herself a musician. but for a time, he saw his future not in recording, but in ranching. >> i grew up around the american
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indians, and the real ranch life. >> his music would become known for its pioneer in poly rhythm. >> riding horseback on a 45,000 acre ranch. you're alone a lot. and i had nothing to think about except music and the sound of the horse walking or trotting and i would always put a different rhythm against that. >> reporter: he later refused to play at venues that didn't allow his black base player on stage. while serving in world war ii, he met paul desmond who later joined his quartet. in 1959, the group released time-out, featuring take five, one of the most popular songs in the history of jazz. in late 1960, he disbanded his quartet and focused his energies
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mostly on orchestra works. he reported more than 100 albums and earned a grammy for lifetime achievement among many other honors. well into his eighth decade, he continued to compose and perform on stage his joy in music still evident. in 2009 one more life achievement. the kennedy center honor. upon receiving the accolades, brubeck said jazz had become an integral part of american culture. >> it's still the most important thing in art, that culture has produced. people don't realize if they go to a broadway show they're hearing jazz. if they go to a football game at half time, they hear it. from the time they're born, they hear it. >> nichelle turner, thank you.